Does Monk healing really degen minion health?? - Guild Wars Forums

Chaco Nautzi · Jul 09, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

I heard this from some guy that called me a noob because I didnt think he was a MM because he wasn't N/Mo(He was N/Me)... He also told me that he wasnt one because Monk healing degen'ed minion health. So what I am asking is, Does Monk healing really degen minion health??

bringer di morte · Jul 09, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32

What do you mean? I think I know what you mean...In that case no. Minions' health degens regularly, but the longer they stay alive, the more it degens.

Chaco Nautzi · Jul 09, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

This guy I todld you abotu he was also a jackass, btu I mean if it were true it would make sense, dont you think?

Because certain necro armors increase holy damage, necros are like the opposite of monks, etc, etc.

Zui · Jul 09, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

No...

NatalieD · Jul 09, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Maybe it would make sense, but it still isn't true.

The only thing that increases minion degen is time. Using healing spells can make them live longer, and then they'll degen faster because of that, but it doesn't happen any more with monk spells than with Blood of the Master.

August August · Jul 09, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

No, there are always a handful of topics about this in the Necro forum, it's mythe.

D Fault · Jul 10, 2006, 08:19 AM // 08:19

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3017074

Faer · Jul 10, 2006, 09:01 AM // 09:01

The majority of Minion Masters are N/Mo, using Heal Area or an equivelant spell to heal thier minions.

If holy healing did in fact cause minions to lose health faster, do you think that there would be so many Necromancers using it?

ZenRgy · Jul 10, 2006, 09:09 AM // 09:09

I run pure necro with my MM build since I'm always swapping professions.

Spam BoTM > Taste of Death on Flesh Golem > Resummon Flesh Golem

I never saw into using heal area, but it's still effective.

Retribution X · Jul 10, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

I used to use HA all the time. literally. It's a great spell when your health is dropping.

So No, it's definatly a lie...

milan · Jul 10, 2006, 02:28 PM // 14:28

There was a lot of 'research' done about monk spells further increasing the degen on minions and they came to the conclusion that it didn't.

Since the changes to blood of the master and veratas sacrifice it's no longer all that nessasary for a necro to be monk secondary with heal area. I haven't used monk secondary on my necro for quite some time, instead choosing mesmer purely because I can't be bothered to change back and forth when I go echo ss etc.

Ariana Of Damia · Jul 10, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

That guy just "thinks" he knows everything. N/Mo works for me

Hengis · Jul 10, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14

The simple fact is that the longer a minion stays alive, the faster its health degens. It makes no odds whether the minion is healed by a necro skill or a monk skill.

Personally, as you can only have 10 minions now, I more often than not just make new ones when their health gets low rather than fight a non-energy effective battle of trying to keep them alive. There are of course some exceptions to this, but that is usually how I play.

$hade. · Jul 10, 2006, 03:16 PM // 15:16

It's a myth, i'm pretty sure every 20 seconds (I think) the minions get 1 or 2 pips of degen. 1 i'm pretty sure.

death fuzzy · Jul 10, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenRgy

I run pure necro with my MM build since I'm always swapping professions.

Spam BoTM > Taste of Death on Flesh Golem > Resummon Flesh Golem

I never saw into using heal area, but it's still effective.

You never saw into using heal area?
Some monks never saw into healing YOU.

From a monks POV, no one wants to heal you every 3 seconds.

Caleb · Jul 10, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by death fuzzy

You never saw into using heal area?
Some monks never saw into healing YOU.

From a monks POV, no one wants to heal you every 3 seconds.

Err... maybe you should look up what Taste of death does? He specifically stated he spams Blood of the Master, then Taste of Death.

From this monk's point of view, him healing himsef for 420HP each time he casts Taste of Death is a welcome addition to my party.

Jul 09, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29	#1
Chaco Nautzi Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Dont Pwn Us Again [PLZ] Profession: N/	Does Monk healing really degen minion health?? I heard this from some guy that called me a noob because I didnt think he was a MM because he wasn't N/Mo(He was N/Me)... He also told me that he wasnt one because Monk healing degen'ed minion health. So what I am asking is, Does Monk healing really degen minion health??

Jul 09, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32	#2
bringer di morte Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: My house Guild: The True Oni [Oni]	What do you mean? I think I know what you mean...In that case no. Minions' health degens regularly, but the longer they stay alive, the more it degens.

Jul 09, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34	#3
Chaco Nautzi Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Dont Pwn Us Again [PLZ] Profession: N/	This guy I todld you abotu he was also a jackass, btu I mean if it were true it would make sense, dont you think? Because certain necro armors increase holy damage, necros are like the opposite of monks, etc, etc.

Jul 09, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39	#4
Zui Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO] Profession: Mo/	No...

Jul 09, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#5
NatalieD Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	Maybe it would make sense, but it still isn't true. The only thing that increases minion degen is time. Using healing spells can make them live longer, and then they'll degen faster because of that, but it doesn't happen any more with monk spells than with Blood of the Master.

Jul 09, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09	#6
August August Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Profession: Rt/	No, there are always a handful of topics about this in the Necro forum, it's mythe.

Jul 10, 2006, 08:19 AM // 08:19	#7
D Fault Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Black Rose Gaming [BR]	http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3017074

Jul 10, 2006, 09:01 AM // 09:01	#8
Faer La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo Join Date: Feb 2006	The majority of Minion Masters are N/Mo, using Heal Area or an equivelant spell to heal thier minions. If holy healing did in fact cause minions to lose health faster, do you think that there would be so many Necromancers using it?

Jul 10, 2006, 09:09 AM // 09:09	#9
ZenRgy Zookeeper Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader Guild: ҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&# Profession: N/E	I run pure necro with my MM build since I'm always swapping professions. Spam BoTM > Taste of Death on Flesh Golem > Resummon Flesh Golem I never saw into using heal area, but it's still effective.

Jul 10, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40	#10
Retribution X Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Check behind you again. Profession: N/	I used to use HA all the time. literally. It's a great spell when your health is dropping. So No, it's definatly a lie...

Jul 10, 2006, 02:28 PM // 14:28	#11
milan Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: BONE Profession: N/	There was a lot of 'research' done about monk spells further increasing the degen on minions and they came to the conclusion that it didn't. Since the changes to blood of the master and veratas sacrifice it's no longer all that nessasary for a necro to be monk secondary with heal area. I haven't used monk secondary on my necro for quite some time, instead choosing mesmer purely because I can't be bothered to change back and forth when I go echo ss etc.

Jul 10, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43	#12
Ariana Of Damia Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: ♥ Aurelio Furor ♥	That guy just "thinks" he knows everything. N/Mo works for me

Jul 10, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14	#13
Hengis Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London Guild: Better Than Life (BTL) Profession: R/	The simple fact is that the longer a minion stays alive, the faster its health degens. It makes no odds whether the minion is healed by a necro skill or a monk skill. Personally, as you can only have 10 minions now, I more often than not just make new ones when their health gets low rather than fight a non-energy effective battle of trying to keep them alive. There are of course some exceptions to this, but that is usually how I play.

Jul 10, 2006, 03:16 PM // 15:16	#14
$hade. Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Guild: [FiRM[] Profession: R/	It's a myth, i'm pretty sure every 20 seconds (I think) the minions get 1 or 2 pips of degen. 1 i'm pretty sure.